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Deleted User 6/24/2018 5:55 PM
Say, this may be a stupid question but you do have a tulpa, right? (I'm new) And if so, could you ask it (if you haven't already) to browse trough your mind and check if you had concepts of the entities you saw even before you saw them?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 5:56 PM
I do have a tulpa... but she's currently recuperating
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An experiment went poorly
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But I can personally confirm I had no such associations beforehand
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I keep track of my personal symbolism as part and parcel of having weird dreams on occasion
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It's useful for both dream interpretation and sigil construction
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It also makes it clear when foreign symbols show up
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 6:00 PM
Seems like a useful thing to do. I still struggle to keep up my regular meditation and so far it's going poorly. So, unfortunately, things like keeping track of my symbolism are out of reach at the moment (not that I'd have any idea how to even start that). That said, how do you reverse engineer your symbolism?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 6:01 PM
Well... the casting style I use requires me to construct "sigils" for the spells
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Which combine symbols relating to the forces or objects involved
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At the moment my sigils tend to be quite simplistic, but apparently later you start getting shenanigans like 3-dimensional sigils (and I'd suspect 4d ones exist as well)
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 6:11 PM
So how would you go about if you'd need to find the symbol you connect to thing X or abstract thought Y?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 6:49 PM
What, like finding a new symbol?
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That's.... tricky
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 7:23 PM
No, finding existing symbols. Is I understood, personal symbolism is used to craft Sigils. Meaning one would need to figure out which symbol means what to him and vice versa. Or have I misunderstood? (edited)
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 7:31 PM
Well, normally the symbols come to mind when I think of something I'd need a sigil for
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Unless it's really complex
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And my dream logging has helped pick out ones I wouldn't think to look at normally
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Deleted User 6/24/2018 7:50 PM
Hm, that's kind of what me and my flat mate thought of too
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I imagined it to be harder 😄
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Symbolism is such a neat thing
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An image can produce so many thoughts feelings and etc
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Truly a picture worth a thousand words and more.
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>.>
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I think that is one of the more buggery things about metaphysics is that everyone's symbolism dictionary is different
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Imo you can think of the brain's visualization centers kinda like the simulation programs that astrophysicists plug in data from long-distance telescopes to generate models of the universe. Our ability to see and feel "metaphysical" things operating similar to that telescope giving them raw numerical feedback. However the brain (unlike a constant algorithm in a simulation) is constantly learning, adding new programming, new data it can play with and simulate things with, and maybe even losing things as well. With that, it has to cobble together a feeble representation that we, 3D conditioned beings can properly understand of metaphysical phenomena without getting our imagination/projection complexes wrapped up with our visualization centers at the same time, during this incredibly arcane and hard to understand process. (edited)
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I apologize for the run on.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:04 PM
Well... words are just an attempt to somewhat standardize symbolism to make communication easier
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Well there we go
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I made my symbolism a little easier to understand maybe
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:06 PM
Speaking of visualizations... I can visualize 10 dimensions easily with enough effort
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Sans anything magic-y or meditation-y
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You just have to remember that dimensions don't need to be spatial
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Yes, as it turns out most people who take interest in metaphysics are excellent visualizers
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and yes!!!
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if you run into a dimension that is spatial that means it was created by one of us, spatial beings
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or a scarier thought, created FOR us by a non-spatial being
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:07 PM
3 spatial dimensions, 3 vector dimensions, 3 color dimensions, and time
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An animated vector field featuring colors on the vectors
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And that's without the easy cheat of superimposition
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I am unfamiliar with your terminology but I have in fact "seent som shit"
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:07 PM
Which makes the sky the limit on what you can visualize
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Basically, yeah.
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In regards to your last statement (edited)
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:08 PM
Vector fields are like normal 3d graphs, except there's a vector at each point showing some direction
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They also work in 2d
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And I guess 1d, but that doesn't seem super helpful
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I have difficulty wrapping my head around 1d.
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<.<
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/24/2018 8:14 PM
It's just a line
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basically yeah
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Albino Elephant 6/24/2018 8:36 PM
@Deleted User the subjectiveness of a sigil can control how well it resonates with you or how well it is made if you are the one making it. Otherwise they are just physical drawings which link to something spiritual.
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Although I think by nature vector space in reality is just an extension of 3 dimensional space, there aren't truly 3 color dimensions at all. Color exists on a 1 dimensional distribution that is intrinsically linked to the three spacial dimensions, just like the three spacial dimensions extend into vectors in 3d too. (edited)
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Deleted User 6/25/2018 9:22 PM
I read like 60 pages of Liber Null and I am amazed. There are quite some parallels with tulpamamcy, especially the evocation part. Also, the texts gain a frightening level of significance if one includes the findings of modern science...
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Well, I guess I found a new topic for in-depth study
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/25/2018 9:28 PM
Liber Null introduces some very interesting concepts
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It makes a good primer for aspiring students of arcana
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I say "color dimensions" with respect to the RGB scale, which, through far too much exposure to computers, I can eyeball quite well
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Ah yes.
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Want your brain to explode?
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Some people are tetrachromatic. (edited)
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/26/2018 12:50 AM
Tetrachromatic?
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I guess they could just be using the pigment color measurement system, which is MCYK (edited)
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Oh nope.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/26/2018 2:22 AM
Then how are they tetrachromatic?
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They have four cone cell types.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/26/2018 3:49 AM
Oh, interesting
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Doesn't it mean they just see reds better though?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/29/2018 2:39 AM
I dunno, not an expert on vision mechanics
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Breloomancer 7/4/2018 3:38 AM
It means that they can see colors that those without can't
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/4/2018 3:39 AM
I guess so
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More sensory input to process and utilize, I guess
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 2:12 PM
This channel is ded
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Time to spam with info 👌
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Spiritual awakenings are something that is very commonly misunderstood. They aren't something that just magically happens out of nowhere or with no causation. Nor does a person become completely spiritually aware after one. What does happen is a leap (most comparable to a growth spurt) in spiritual abilities, knowledge, or both. Many times this is accompanied by headaches and great spiritual perceptions for a short time afterwards. There is a variety of reasons this could happen, but let's go through the more common ones. -Someone has been practicing for a bit and all of the sudden some of the naturally occurring barriers around them get weakened, cracked, or broken to where energy starts having an easier time affecting them. -Either sought or unsought help comes from some spirit. this could be anything from a higher self the person calls for help to a random spirit that thinks the person will be a good aide in the future. -Intentionally creating circumstances which empower yourself in some way. Some people use runes to increase certain perceptions and that in itself is a spiritual awakening; others practice chakra openings which can cause spiritual awakenings.
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I have yet to give a detailed explanation about how to do energy work so I will be doing that today. First off pick one of these three that resonates with you better than the others: Smoke Light Water Now imagine that whichever you picked fills your body completely. This is the energy inside of you and to move it imagine that thing moving. If you want to shoot energy out of your hand then you should imagine that object shooting or flowing out of your hand. If you want to clear out stagnant energy in an area then imagine that object moving around in that area. Note that this is purely to help with visualization and you can use any other material that you can visualize well.
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Now this one is pretty beginner. If you are able to sense energy but want a quick boost to what you are sensing right then, then what you can do is imagine the energy of your body going up to your head and then to your third eye and then shooting out of it and hitting everything else. This sends energy out from your third eye which then gets reflected back so you are able to see with your third eye better. Doing this for too long can drain you though. Alternatively if you want to quickly get your senses better then you can do the similar thing but instead of it shooting out of your third eye it goes into it, making it more sensitive. Basically sending energy into your third eye to power it up.
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Cleansing your energy is an important part of life when doing energy work. WHenever you feel like your energy is dirty then find a source of energy you associate with (the sun, the moon, the earth, plants, water, fire) and begin taking in energy from it at one part of your body and have it push out all the energy that feels dirty or nasty in some way out through the other side of your body. Not doing this after working with any sorts of entities can make you corrupted (full of) that energy which makes your normal energy work harder since you can't produce other energy types as well. (Don't think about how many times I said energy in this post)
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 2:37 PM
Interesting
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Much of this sounds similar to what I've been working on
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:15 PM
I mean all energy work has the same basic concepts
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Unless you are Christian
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:15 PM
Haven't heard of the cleansing bit
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:15 PM
Christians are hardcore
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:15 PM
Well, Christianity as most people know it isn't really focused on the metaphysical once you're saved
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:15 PM
The good ones at least
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It is....
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:16 PM
There's stuff for them to work on once they are, but many people never hear about, and entire denominations have forgotten about it
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:16 PM
The Bible teaches many forms of meditation and spiritual development
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:16 PM
Well yes, but most people don't seem to actually do that
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:16 PM
I'm referring to the people who do
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Not the faith in whole
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:16 PM
Oh, in that case then yes
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I have a friend who's in the "aware" category
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Albino Elephant 7/13/2018 3:18 PM
So you have never heard of grounding?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 7/13/2018 3:19 PM
I have not
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Bear in mind that I've been largely trying to scope out the energy stuff for myself
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donkerhonker 7/14/2018 1:07 PM
What crystals should I put on my gun to increase its power?
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 1:22 PM
I would use grand soul gem to enchant it with fortify two-handed (or one-handed) and lifesteal
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Albino Elephant 7/14/2018 1:23 PM
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